Who Has Died From COVID?

A year ago, the president of the Bulgarian Pathology Association declared “No one has died from the coronavirus”. Are we any the wiser today?

In an attempt to clarify the situation, I tried to find some information on the Royal College of Pathologists’ website. As you will see from the following correspondence, currently there is no post-mortem data on COVID related deaths in the UK available to the public, although the College is considering my request.

From: Clive Menzies clive@clivemenzies.co.uk
Sent: 11 July 2021 11:43
To: info info@rcpath.org
Subject: COVID-19 POST-MORTEM PORTAL AND RESULTS

Hi

I’ve visited your website to access data on COVID-19 post-mortem results but it appears one has to be a member of the Royal College of Pathologists to access any reports.
https://www.rcpath.org/profession/coronavirus-resource-hub/covid-19-post-mortem-portal.html

Do you provide any information to the wider public? If so, please would you send me the data on COVID related post-mortem results from 23rd March 2020 to the present date.

This is clearly a matter of significant public interest and should be in the public domain.

Thanks

Clive


On Tue, 2021-07-13 at 10:24 +0000, Samantha Jayaram wrote:

Dear Clive

Thanks for your email.

The portal was set up at the start of the pandemic with the aim of collating post mortem reports from our members from the relatively small amount of post mortems that were undertaken on patients who had died from suspected COVID-19 or where a post mortem had been requested by the family.

The portal was developed as a means to build a database of information to help inform the treatment of COVID-19 patients and research about the disease. As such, we will not be releasing the reports publicly.

Kind regards

Samantha 


From: Clive Menzies clive@clivemenzies.co.uk
Sent: 13 July 2021 11:57
To: Samantha Jayaram Samantha.Jayaram@rcpath.org
Subject: Re: FW: COVID-19 POST-MORTEM PORTAL AND RESULTS

Hi Samantha

This is highly unsatisfactory.

We are constantly told that we are in the midst of a lethal pandemic of unprecedented proportions and yet burial and cremation statistics across the country fail to reveal any abnormal “spike” in deaths throughout 2020.

Furthermore, no post-mortems across Europe had revealed deaths from covid alone, as of 2nd July 2020, according to the president of the Bulgarian Pathology Association.

Our freedoms, economy and way of life have been severely disrupted and yet, the RCP is not prepared to release information to the public to make informed choices in relation to the threat of COVID versus the increasingly apparent damage from the experimental “vaccines”. See the MHRA’s own website.

As a public body, are you not obliged to release such information, particularly as it is anonymised on receipt by the RCP?

Regards

Clive


On Tue, 2021-07-13 at 11:22 +0000, Samantha Jayaram wrote:
Dear Clive

The Royal College of Pathologists is a professional membership organisation with charitable status. More information about the College can be found here.

As I mentioned in my earlier email, the majority of patients who have died from COVID-19 will not have had a post-mortem as a death a certificate will have been issued.

I can enquire what the plans are to collate the post-mortem reports we do have and release more widely but as you have identified, any plans do this would be on anonymised basis.

Kind regards
Samantha


From: Clive Menzies clive@clivemenzies.co.uk
To: Samantha Jayaram Samantha.Jayaram@rcpath.org
Subject: Re: FW: COVID-19 POST-MORTEM PORTAL AND RESULTS
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 15:18:09 +0100

Thanks for the prompt and clear response Samantha

I guess there is the question of charities being subsidised by taxpayers and what requirements/obligations they have to those who fund them but that question is beyond my current level of competence/understanding.

Meanwhile, there are many reports of doctors being coerced/pressured into signing off deaths as due to covid with some bizarre examples quoted. Even the mainstream press is reporting the problem https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9305405/Grieving-relatives-demand-inquiry-loved-ones-wrongly-certified-virus-victims.html

So we’re in a confusing situation. Deaths are being certified as being from or “with” and thus added to the statistics; the UK government has worsened the confusion by relaxing the rules for certification.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/877302/guidance-for-doctors-completing-medical-certificates-of-cause-of-death-covid-19.pdf

When we couple that information with the downgrading of covid-19 as a high consequence infectious disease (HCID) on 19th March 2020, four days before the imposition of the “coronavirus” regulations, the confusion mounts.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid

Post-mortem data from the Royal College of Pathologists may help dispel much of the confusion and add some essential clarity to the situation.

So I look forward to hearing the result of your enquiries.

Regards

Clive